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Janet
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| Hermcat06 wrote: | | Ken will most likely fold! Death or tell Dale where they are? |
No I think not. That would mean that the identity of the Malloy's as The Riches would come to a premature end and I don't know where the show would be going from there.
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thorjansen
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| Janet wrote: | | No I think not. That would mean that the identity of the Malloy's as The Riches would come to a premature end and I don't know where the show would be going from there. |
I think that it might actually be pretty damn interesting if some of the Travellers do end up in Eden Falls (even murderous Dale), making the Malloys' con that much more difficult to continue. That might even provide a bigger thrill for the characters too, who seem to thrive on being able to pull off a huge con even in the face of its own absurdity.
Plus, I don't think it's realistic to keep the Malloys in Eden Falls for too long. They don't really want to be buffers (well, most of them, anyway). They live for the con, especially Wayne, who's pulling off the most outrageous one of all. A successful lawyer who hasn't seen one lick of law school? What a guy!
I can see them moving on when the con starts falling apart, and then doing the same kind of con again elsewhere. After all, this is probably the most profitable con that any of the Travellers in that group have ever pulled off. They're bound to want to keep it going for as long as they can.
But I don't think any of the other Travellers has quite the sophistication and finesse to carry off this big of a con as Wayne and Dahlia and the kids can. They are something special in the group, which is why they don't really fit in back at camp.
And that's why the con will start to fall apart when the other Travellers do inevitably hit Eden Falls, with a humongous bang!
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Steve
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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You are right on that one Thor, however I do sense that they are not completely happy with their con either. Dahlia has complained several times that all they do is work and that they have become buffers already.
In a way, its a con that needs a lot of hard work and they don't seem to be entirely happy about this, being used to quick in and out ones.
I think Wayne got really lucky so far, not having to go in front of a judge. If that ever happens, I'd like to see how he would pull that one off without getting caught.
Its one thing to scare regular people and blackmail them, but going through a trial with his education seems impossible to me.
He has always been happy that his paralegal (law clerk?) has found so many loopholes and dug out so much dirt about the other side, but some day someone might walk into his office with a clean vest and a strong case and then what?
Well, I too can see them move on, but not in this season. I guess there is still a lot more to be done.
BTW: I feel pretty bad for poor simple minded Ken. He is in a bad situation left behind to deal with Dale all by himself. I don't think he has the strength to stand up to him, but I don't see him give away Di Di either.
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chase
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: Moving on |
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This is what I think the writers should do for the show...I think Ken should fold. The others will start to find the Malloys and at about the same time Wayne has to go to trial and the judge and others will start to see things don't quite add up with Wayne. Then...they HAVE to move on to another con and that's the whole idea of the Riches show. Until the next year when for some reason they have to move on again. All the while, someone from the previous con seems to locate them at the new con job and threatens their success then off to another. Each new place should have a small trail from the previous place.
***In real life if one traveller family isn't quite out of the travelling life completely but they do want to be on their own, not with the clan...when the others start showing up, that's usually problems for the family wanting to be seperate. Not always intending to cause trouble but it does happen.
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chase
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: the name of the show |
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| I just thought of something. If they went on to another scam they would have to change their last name again. What would that do to the name of the show?
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Dahling
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: the name of the show |
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| chase wrote: | | If they went on to another scam they would have to change their last name again. What would that do to the name of the show? |
Well, someone else had a similar concern a while back and it's a valid one. Obviously, the title has many different meanings, which I think was done intentionally.
Yes, it's the name the Malloys took on for this con to work. But I think it's also the overall theme of the show - taking the riches from others. So in that sense the show could go on with the same name even if they take on different identities/move on.
On the other hand, while I think that the title was chosen intentionally to entail different meanings, it would be kind of weird to me if they are not the Riches family anymore.
So, who knows, there are so many twists and turns in this show, that I am sure there will be an interesting solution to this problem.
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Steve
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: The Riches |
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Well, the Malloy's are taking "The Riches" from other people, so overall it doesn't matter if they move on.
I have no doubt that Dale will find them sooner or later, however I don't believe Ken will fold.
When Dale finds them, that doesn't mean he is going to bring down the entire thing. He might just try to put a strangle on the Malloy's or he could be bought off and left with the leadership of the clan. After all thats what he really wants. He is only after Wayne to ensure his "rightful" place.
He is like a prairie dog. If he gets to be the alpha male of the clan and if he can make sure his rivals don't pose a thread he loses interest.
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thorjansen
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Riches |
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| Steve wrote: | | (Dale) might just try to put a strangle on the Malloy's or he could be bought off and left with the leadership of the clan. After all thats what he really wants. |
True, it's alpha male competition time, all right. But I don't think Wayne would really have a problem giving up his right to lead the group, if he ever learns that Earl meant for him to do it. Unless, of course, Dahlia is a stickler and insists that he takes his rightful place at the head of the table.
However, I also think that while Dale would be initially happy if Wayne did capitulate, Wayne and family would still be required to pitch in a portion of their take no matter where they are and what scam they are pulling off, unless they completely leave the group, which I don't think they will, since Dahlia still has unresolved issues with her mother and other family. That kind of money will be a huge draw for Dale and the rest, and they won't likely give up on that, and so they will want to keep their hooks in the traveling Malloys.
Oh, and Dale still pines for Dahlia, and thinks he should have gotten her rather than Wayne. And there's still the little matter of Dale leaving Earl to die, and there will have to be justice meted out for that crime some time in the future.
Dahling's right. There are just so many intricately woven threads in this rich (I'm just so full of puns today, sorry) landscape of a show that just about anything could happen, and it would just work and be totally captivating and interesting no matter what.
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Steve
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: Re: The Riches |
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| thorjansen wrote: |
True, it's alpha male competition time, all right. But I don't think Wayne would really have a problem giving up his right to lead the group, if he ever learns that Earl meant for him to do it. Unless, of course, Dahlia is a stickler and insists that he takes his rightful place at the head of the table.
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I agree. Wayne wouldn't mind, since he has bigger fish to catch now.
Since Dahlia has been ousted by her aunt in this Episode, I don't know if she will want to return any time soon. Obviously it broke her heart to learn how ignorant her aunt really is and how much she favors Dale up to the point of completely ignoring his murder.
| thorjansen wrote: |
That kind of money will be a huge draw for Dale and the rest, and they won't likely give up on that, and so they will want to keep their hooks in the traveling Malloys.
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Probably. But will Wayne let them. I can clearly see a big fight coming. Lets see who wins, Brains (Wayne) or Muscles (Dale). My money is on brains. Initially Wayne might pay some money, but Dale can never be sure if Wayne is cheating him about his real income (and you can bet he would).
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Oh, and Dale still pines for Dahlia, and ... Dale leaving Earl to die
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Well, he would have to kill Wayne to get his hands on Dahlia. I am sure he is going to try, but I am even more sure that Wayne won't give him the chance. Wayne also has the backup and support of his smart wife and smart Children (each one of them a lot smarter then Dale). I don't see Dale playing such a big role in all this. I can see him whine and cry on the phone as he has done in the past and run around like the coyote he is, but I simply cannot imagine him to be a serious thread to the Malloy's. They are simply out of his league.
Wayne is playing in a different class now and Dale cannot catch up with it. I can see Wayne make some use of other Travellers to pull of huge scams, but they will be his foot soldiers (they are the pawns in his game). Or I could be all wrong and overestimate Wayne's capabilities.
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erikko
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| i hope this will be available in my area because according to your spoilers, this is a good series and i want it, maybe i put my cable tv on
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